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This happens a lot, but most specifically it happened to me on the train last Friday whilst going up to see my parents. It was especially annoying because this guy sat down next to me in one of those “family” seats where they are facing both ways, so I moved across and opposite from him so that we would both have legroom AND armroom– and he proceeded to lounge over the entire three seats of the now-free row he had, effectively cutting off my ability to stretch my legs. MEN INVADE SPACE

Panel 1:
(Tea and a random Man and Woman are sitting in a row.  Man is sitting with his legs and arms well into Tea's and Woman's space)
Tea: What is wrong with this picture?
Man: Ho-de-hum!
Woman: You are pushing me out of the frame.

Panel 2:
(Bus, Train, Plane)
THIS HAPPENS
ON BUSES
ON TRAINS
ON PLANES
ANYWHERE WHERE PEOPLE ARE SEATED IN ROWS.

Panel 3:
(Tea and Larry Craig in a public restroom.  Larry's leg is sticking into Tea's stall)
Tea: US Senators even do it in public restrooms!

Panel 4:
(Tea)
Tea: Seriously, guys, what is up with this?  I have seen a lot of wee-wees.  They do not need all of that space! For real, take a look in the mirror.

LADIES NEED MORE ROOM THAN YOUR BALLS..

 

Mirrored from Antagonia.net.

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Date: 2009-10-20 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karnythia.livejournal.com
I'm at the point where I shove back when it happens because that is one of my biggest peeves on the bus.

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Date: 2009-10-20 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
I have, too, on occasion. This one particular guy was across the aisle from me so I would have had to really obviously deliberately kick him. :-(

I once gave a guy on a plane a dressing-down about it. I was like, dude, I did not pay $200 to have your elbow in my boob.

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Date: 2009-10-20 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittehkat.livejournal.com
True!!!

This is when I use my fat to my advantage.

On plans, no one wants to sit next to The Fat Person, but I really do keep my rolls in check... until a dude starts moving his leg onto MY side, then I'm like, fine, fuck you, and relax, and don't care if my fat spills over to cover a bit of the arm rest. So take that, men!

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Date: 2009-10-20 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
Do you think I could do this with my hair?

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Date: 2009-10-20 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittehkat.livejournal.com
As horrific as this sounds... YES.

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Date: 2009-10-20 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
MUHAHAHAHAHA

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Date: 2009-10-21 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheshire23.livejournal.com
Yes! I do this too. And I suppose it makes me not just a bitch but a Fat Bitch ohnoez.

And Tea? Excellent comic! <3

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Date: 2009-10-21 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
<3 Thank you!

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Date: 2009-10-21 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] henpecked.livejournal.com
I DO THIS, TOO! The best time to be fat is on public transportation!

Although one time on the subway I was sitting next to the metal divider near the doors and someone was sitting on the other side of the three seat section -- and a lady who easily weighed 350-400 lbs tried to squeeze between us. You should have seen my arms. Everyone looked at me with pity in their eyes. IDK THIS WAS RUSH HOUR, I WASN'T GETTING UP! If you are fat, you know EXACTLY how much space you take up. C'mon.

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Date: 2009-10-20 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] balcarin.livejournal.com
I rarely ever have this happen to me maybe because I look mean but I'd just sit with my elbows really far out or give the person ~the look~ or just plain old be like REALLY? NO.

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Date: 2009-10-21 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
I think pushing back is like the only thing that works when it is middle aged men who pretend to be engrossed in their newspapers.

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Date: 2009-10-20 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mel06.livejournal.com
This never happens to me because I have purple and blue hair, am hard of hearing (so my iPod is loud as shit), and have piercings and tattoos. No one wants to sit next to me. Plus, I give them my evil stare-down. But when it does happen to me, I push back. Hard.

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Date: 2009-10-21 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mel06.livejournal.com
ILU^2.

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Date: 2009-10-21 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smammers.livejournal.com
Dudes do this to me at work! If I'm looking up something for them at one of the computer terminals around the store (not the info desk one, since they're not allowed behind the counter), they will stand riiiiight next to/behind me, trying to read over my shoulder. Women do it to, but it's mostly men. I'm always like, dude, you're in my bubble. I have yet to find a way to tell them to back off politely. :\

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Date: 2009-10-21 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
Agh! That doesn't happen to me so much. I hate when people look over my shoulder at my work.

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Date: 2009-10-21 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkly-stuff.livejournal.com
UGH YES!!! This drives me crazy on the subway!

It's societal; it's considered manly to take up as much space as you want, like any seat you're sitting in is your personal throne...while girls are still taught that the only proper way to sit is with ankles or knees crossed as to take up as little space as possible. And as long as we women continue to not say anything to these assholes taking up our space, they'll keep doing it. /feminist theory

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Date: 2009-10-21 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
I think it's more that it's considered manly to show off your balls. Since this usually involves the very wide leg-splay. Other than that, I am right with you!

I think though that it is one of those things that bears mentioning when you are not "in the moment" though because it will ideally remind men to think about it when they are in those places, as opposed to risking a situation where you deal with someone really confrontational. I am okay with being confrontational right back but a lot of women are understandably uncomfortable.

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Date: 2009-10-21 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thaliontholwen.livejournal.com
Yes, yes, all of this, yes. Because I am sick of going to class and getting approximately 10 inches of table space because the older male doc student thinks he deserves to spread himself and all his shit across the rest of it. And he skeeves me out too much for me to push back.

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Date: 2009-10-21 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
Get to class early and do it before he gets a chance to!

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Date: 2009-10-21 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gildedage.livejournal.com
You should be me. That guy wanted to sit next to the drunks and not me. Problem solved.

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Date: 2009-10-21 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
YES OMG YES. I don't know what the fuck was up with that dude. BUT HERE HAVE A GIANT BEER STEIN.

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Date: 2009-10-21 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gildedage.livejournal.com
WE ARE FROM PRINCETON AND... AND... DO THEY KNOW WE'RE DRUNK????

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Date: 2009-10-21 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
WE ARE TOTALLY IN CONTROL. WE ARE NOT EMBARRASSING OUR ONLY SOBER FRIEND.

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Date: 2009-10-21 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] impoetry.livejournal.com
lmao "you're pushing me out of the frame."

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Date: 2009-10-21 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
SERIOUSLY YOU KNOW.

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Date: 2009-10-21 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guingel.livejournal.com
ARGH I KNOW. I GET SO MAD! The other day I was in one of the 3-seaters that they have on the R and F and D trains and wide-leg-ball-asshole guy was sitting on the other side, and then ANOTHER wide-leg-ball-asshole guy sat next to him and ALSO spread his legs. Sometimes I shove or otherwise attempt to create shame, but I guess I'm not aggressive enough about it, I don't get a good reaction. I don't know if it's because I don't know what's going on with the balls thing or if I just find knees more intractable. But that day I tried to shift around and claim my space, and then eventually I just got fed up, slammed my book shut, slammed it against my hand really loudly (it was a super-quiet moment on the train) and then just stood up, grabbed the pole, and glared at both of them the rest of the trip.

You have expressed my rage! Maybe I will print this out and leave it places! There are always guys all around them that are sitting like completely normal human beings, too. I do not believe that their balls are just that big.

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Date: 2009-10-21 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
Augh! I have been stuck between two of them on morning commutes a few times. So glad I don't do that anymore.

And I secretly think that these are actually the guys with really small penises.

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Date: 2009-10-21 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guingel.livejournal.com
Right? Because if sitting with your legs together was a recognized and obvious sign of "my genitalia is diminuitive," then no one would do it - but the majority of guys on my commute manage to contain themselves in SOME way, even if it's not necessarily sufficient.

Ugh. I just don't need my thigh pressing against a stranger's thigh.

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Date: 2009-10-21 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] craterchest.livejournal.com
We don't have any public transportation down here, but I do know this is a guy's passive-aggressive way of saying, "I need my space." They hope that by expanding out their elbows and knees, they have effectively claimed control of that area and now, if they do happen to sit more relaxed and less expanded, there's this bubble that they have created.

It's annoying I know, but nothing tries to put more space between other human beings and himself than the American guy.

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Date: 2009-10-21 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
Ehh, I don't think we're talking about the same thing, because this is not a question of trying to keep other people away. This is a question of deliberately invading women's space. You probably don't experience it because you are a dude and guys don't do it to other guys.

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Date: 2009-10-21 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rattsu.livejournal.com
Haha yeah, that has happened to me once, I think I told you about that one time? When I was convinced that the guy was flirting with me... I never really thought that this might be a problem for most girls, since... well, 6'3" metalhead doesn't tend to be the kind of person people sit next to and I'm not above shoving back, and is usually stronger than they...

Makes me wonder if things would be different on the bus now, but these days I never go alone since Aleph is here. I am looking a lot girlier than I used to after all...

Fun fact: When I was working to build my new shiny confident persona in my teenage years, the first and most important thing was to steal the male body language, especially the way they are sitting with their legs. So I am a confident don't mess with me sprawler myself that takes up a lot of room... *blushes* To be fair, in normal seating I cannot sit with my legs together, because my height is mostly legs, and they just don't fit in the space between the seats. Seriously. If there's room, me and Aleph generally takes different seats since he has massive shoulders to add to this..

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Date: 2009-10-21 01:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
Oh I am not talking about guys rubbing up against women! That is a completely different phenomenon! This isn't really sexual so much as dominating-- it's shoving body parts into your space in an attempt to make you shrink your personal space. And yeah, adopting a masculine posture can go a long way to eliminating that.

I don't think it's the same as truly being a large person and needing more space than a little seat gives you-- bigger people tend to be more self-conscious of their space and try to compensate for it. But when a 5'7" dude is taking up his seat and half your seat it's like, wtf.

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Date: 2009-10-21 08:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alephz.livejournal.com
See, that's one bit of the masculine identity I really don't get. Being a big dude to begin with (less so now, but I'll never be tiny), a body tries to be aware of how much space you take up.

Poeple are jerks, man.

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Date: 2009-10-21 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigrkittn.livejournal.com
This is so true!! I usually strike preemptively by taking up as much space as I can so nobody wants to sit next to me. However I do shove back. Booo for insecure men with something to prove and big-ass ballsy ones who are unaware of their own lack of awesomeness.

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Date: 2009-10-21 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
Yeah, if I'm not on such a crowded train, I do this. But sadly commuter rail to my parents' house is usually packed like sardines. And male sardines apparently have huge imaginary balls.

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Date: 2009-10-21 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigrkittn.livejournal.com
Ah yes,NYC commuter rail!! I'm originally from Croton-on-Hudson, so I'm quite familiar with that phenomenon!

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Date: 2009-10-21 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
Are you really?! My childhood best friend is from Croton-on-Hudson! I am not sure how old you are, but did you ever know the Reillys? Paul, Erin, or Aileen? They went to St. Patrick's for elementary school and moved to Colorado in 1995.

Oh! I just checked your profile and you are much older than us! But if you lived there in the 80s-90s you might have known them anyway?! Their parents are Patty and Paul?
Edited Date: 2009-10-21 02:05 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2009-10-21 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigrkittn.livejournal.com
I moved away after high school, so your friends and I wouldn't have crossed paths. It's cool to run into someone who knows my tiny town though! Sometimes I read CrotonBlog just to giggle at the police blotter and the fact that nothing has changed- nothing happens there. It's such an awesome place.

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Date: 2009-10-21 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
Yes! I have so many great memories from there.

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Date: 2009-10-21 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shinyredtype.livejournal.com
Sometimes I shove my leg into theirs, but then when they don't move it, I feel really uncomfortable like they are enjoying having their leg rubbing up against mine and getting off on it, so that squicks me a lot.

I also usually put my bag on the floor between my feet, so when I am lowering it, I bring it down on the side of the offending man's legs (rather than directly between mine). I'll make sure I intentionally hit my bag against their knee, and sometimes that makes them move their leg away from me.

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Date: 2009-10-21 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimsonplum.livejournal.com
Oh my God, yes. For me, this expands into guys who sit at restaurant tables like they're a couch or a recliner: turned sideways, leaned as far back as possible, legs way out into the aisle, making you edge by because they refuse to move. Like they're four, and you need to say "Put your bottom in the chair and face forward."

And also, people of either gender who insist on standing less than a foot behind you in line. I start out by edging away, but usually they just close the distance. Luckily, I'm a big girl who always carries a big bag...so when the opportunity presents itself, I'll sling that bad boy back over my hip, hard. Caught one guy so by surprise that he actually *APOLOGIZED.*

Hmm...clearly I have personal space Issues. :)

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Date: 2009-10-21 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonmagelet.livejournal.com
THIS IS MY FAVORITE COMIC!

Can you make shirts that say, "LADIES NEED MORE ROOM THAN YOUR BALLS"? Possibly with something else on the other side? It would warm the cockles of my little heart.

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Date: 2009-11-04 02:28 am (UTC)
ext_6755: by <lj user="babycin"> (mary)
From: [identity profile] fannyanns.livejournal.com
what she said.

cafe press???

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Date: 2009-10-25 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiralstairs.livejournal.com
Okay, this totally happened to me yesterday! This assclown got on the subway a few stops after me and damn near shoved me out of my seat! Mind you, I stayed where I was and didn't shift my weight anywhere, but he wasn't apologetic at all! When someone got up and he moved over, I saw he was only sitting halfway in his new seat and his butt was draped in his old seat. He could totally fit in the seat too, but he was rude about it instead. What a lamerz.

Just wanted to share. :)

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